ON a completely unrelated note, it’s seems like it’s been a while since we last had a creature journal. Is that still going? Will it be restarting? Is my computer just suffering from odd and strangely specific glitches regarding updates?
Well, so far, the Terrible Adult Count is 3: Marburger (terrible to his nurse), Hazeldella (terrible to her patients), and Yunda (terrible to his unwittingly adopted daughter).
The rest is either irrelevant or doesn’t seem so bad.
Hazeldella DEFINTELY has a good heart, I thought she’s been behaving rather well in this chapter.
Nothing we can do about Yunda. He’s really good at being the greedy shopkeeper.
I think it’s because I know what’s coming, I know both sides of all the characters. I can just say, Ed likes to surprise you. I can’t wait to show everyone what’s coming.
I’m also counting Yunda’s wife. She hasn’t been as active or vocal but she’s just as bad as Yunda even if only by nature of supporting him. Tane’s on sketchy territory too. Left his son unsupervised with an ancient and powerful artifact that he knew full well the boy couldn’t handle.
I’ll take Lee’s word that there will be helpful adults though. Not like it would be unheard of for a story following the adventures of children to have the adult cast be inept or amoral. Thought that was where it was going.
Tane’s fine. Idem has to learn – no choice, it’s an inherited position, not Tane’s fault either. And to be any kind of guardian worth having, Idem needs agency; he needs to believe that he can do stuff and then deal with the consequences as they arise. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t supposed to pull that orb out at all, anyways.
Hazeldella really doesn’t strike me as problematic. I mean, what did she do, berate a wayward patient for overdoing it? I thought that was more or less required behavior for nurses. Ear-pulling and insults optional.
Marburger’s selfish-ish. We haven’t seen the inside of his head yet, though.
Yunda’s an entertaining ass. I wouldn’t want him as a father, but the one time we’ve seen his family in direct danger that he knew about (wife giving birth unattended) he did step it up and do his obnoxious best to protect them. One has to realize, here’s a man with quite a line of patter – which may mean he’s hiding something else underneath. I still want to know what he’d have done if he’d caught Gong smoking. (I vote rip him a new one!)
Yes, it does appear his wife enables his ass-ness, but we haven’t seen much. I’ve seen people dealing with spouses that are hard to cope with for varying reasons, and it’s not always easy to tell what’s going on between them. Patience.
I agree that Yunda would probably be furious if he caught his son smoking – those things are profitable! You don’t smoke the merchandice!
More seriously, I’m not certain that redeming Yunda (if it happens) would actually be a good thing for the story. He seems to be an essential foundation for significant parts of th comedy of the story, so giving him a marked character evolution would hamper what is a key role.
Oh for sure, we haven’t seen much at all with a lot of the characters. There’s still plenty to discover.
Personally I categorize Hazeldella as more inept than amoral. Her heart’s definitely in the right place, she regrets it when her actions negatively impact people, and she’s taken steps to try and set things right. However she also meekly tags along with Marburger throughout. She didn’t resist when Marburger offered her as a bodily sacrifice and then continued to follow him afterwards. Entirely benevolent, but likely too weakwilled and submissive to ever do more for the children than provide some supplies and some cryptic hints or directions when nobody is looking.
Tane, yes. Obviously Idem needs to learn to use the orb. That’s still not a situation where leaving the child alone with a dangerous tool they haven’t learned to use safely is anything but negligence.
No he wasn’t supposed to use it. He’s a child. He did what any child would’ve done. Tane’s the one who should’ve known better.
And agency is obviously important, but the boy’s still seven or something. There’s freedom to make mistakes, and then there’s leaving him alone with a device that he is only capable of hurting himself with and will require saving from when you’re not there to handle it. Kids make mistakes. You still don’t let them run around the city with your arsenal of firearms and explosives when they haven’t even figured out how the safety works. You give them the freedom to piss off a wild bear, but not in a scenario where Dad isn’t right around the corner prepared to take care of things when he hears the sound of an angry bear. You let him build whatever he wants with the power-tools, but not without someone present to make sure he doesn’t lose any fingers in the process.
There’s agency and then there’s negligence. This was negligence.
There is one question to ask about Yunda in this specific comic…Is it really greed that he is worried about or his daughter………..My vote is with greed, but still ya have to ask it.
Protect the money!
ON a completely unrelated note, it’s seems like it’s been a while since we last had a creature journal. Is that still going? Will it be restarting? Is my computer just suffering from odd and strangely specific glitches regarding updates?
I announced it on page 35 but that announcement got buried. The demon journal is on break until chapter 2 starts.
I will make sure to mention it in our main page blog soon when we announce the schedule for Chapter 2.
Ah, thankyou. I must have missed the announcement
So I’m getting the feeling that this is a story where the adults suck and aren’t going to be helpful at all.
There are nice adult characters, we promise! They will be given their time to shine.
Well, so far, the Terrible Adult Count is 3: Marburger (terrible to his nurse), Hazeldella (terrible to her patients), and Yunda (terrible to his unwittingly adopted daughter).
The rest is either irrelevant or doesn’t seem so bad.
Hazeldella DEFINTELY has a good heart, I thought she’s been behaving rather well in this chapter.
Nothing we can do about Yunda. He’s really good at being the greedy shopkeeper.
I think it’s because I know what’s coming, I know both sides of all the characters. I can just say, Ed likes to surprise you. I can’t wait to show everyone what’s coming.
I’m also counting Yunda’s wife. She hasn’t been as active or vocal but she’s just as bad as Yunda even if only by nature of supporting him. Tane’s on sketchy territory too. Left his son unsupervised with an ancient and powerful artifact that he knew full well the boy couldn’t handle.
I’ll take Lee’s word that there will be helpful adults though. Not like it would be unheard of for a story following the adventures of children to have the adult cast be inept or amoral. Thought that was where it was going.
I’m loving all this feedback! Really cool to get the reader’s perspective on these characters.
Keep it coming!
Tane’s fine. Idem has to learn – no choice, it’s an inherited position, not Tane’s fault either. And to be any kind of guardian worth having, Idem needs agency; he needs to believe that he can do stuff and then deal with the consequences as they arise. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t supposed to pull that orb out at all, anyways.
Hazeldella really doesn’t strike me as problematic. I mean, what did she do, berate a wayward patient for overdoing it? I thought that was more or less required behavior for nurses. Ear-pulling and insults optional.
Marburger’s selfish-ish. We haven’t seen the inside of his head yet, though.
Yunda’s an entertaining ass. I wouldn’t want him as a father, but the one time we’ve seen his family in direct danger that he knew about (wife giving birth unattended) he did step it up and do his obnoxious best to protect them. One has to realize, here’s a man with quite a line of patter – which may mean he’s hiding something else underneath. I still want to know what he’d have done if he’d caught Gong smoking. (I vote rip him a new one!)
Yes, it does appear his wife enables his ass-ness, but we haven’t seen much. I’ve seen people dealing with spouses that are hard to cope with for varying reasons, and it’s not always easy to tell what’s going on between them. Patience.
I agree that Yunda would probably be furious if he caught his son smoking – those things are profitable! You don’t smoke the merchandice!
More seriously, I’m not certain that redeming Yunda (if it happens) would actually be a good thing for the story. He seems to be an essential foundation for significant parts of th comedy of the story, so giving him a marked character evolution would hamper what is a key role.
Oh for sure, we haven’t seen much at all with a lot of the characters. There’s still plenty to discover.
Personally I categorize Hazeldella as more inept than amoral. Her heart’s definitely in the right place, she regrets it when her actions negatively impact people, and she’s taken steps to try and set things right. However she also meekly tags along with Marburger throughout. She didn’t resist when Marburger offered her as a bodily sacrifice and then continued to follow him afterwards. Entirely benevolent, but likely too weakwilled and submissive to ever do more for the children than provide some supplies and some cryptic hints or directions when nobody is looking.
Tane, yes. Obviously Idem needs to learn to use the orb. That’s still not a situation where leaving the child alone with a dangerous tool they haven’t learned to use safely is anything but negligence.
No he wasn’t supposed to use it. He’s a child. He did what any child would’ve done. Tane’s the one who should’ve known better.
And agency is obviously important, but the boy’s still seven or something. There’s freedom to make mistakes, and then there’s leaving him alone with a device that he is only capable of hurting himself with and will require saving from when you’re not there to handle it. Kids make mistakes. You still don’t let them run around the city with your arsenal of firearms and explosives when they haven’t even figured out how the safety works. You give them the freedom to piss off a wild bear, but not in a scenario where Dad isn’t right around the corner prepared to take care of things when he hears the sound of an angry bear. You let him build whatever he wants with the power-tools, but not without someone present to make sure he doesn’t lose any fingers in the process.
There’s agency and then there’s negligence. This was negligence.
Whether the adults are helpful/not helpful doesn’t interest me as much as this: why are the demons out to get the humans?
I imagine that’ll take chapters to cover though, eh?
There is one question to ask about Yunda in this specific comic…Is it really greed that he is worried about or his daughter………..My vote is with greed, but still ya have to ask it.
He isn’t worried about his daughter – or even his wife. He says it straight out: “These stupid demons better not be vandalizing my store.”